My dad turned my attention to a band I had heard of, mostly because of their two songs “Cumbersome” and “Water’s Edge” from the album American Standard. I thought, “Oh yeah, the roots rock band from when I was in high school.” Not so, I was told, and since Dad and I share nearly all things musical (Fogelberg, Prine, and bluegrass I owe to him) I gave it a shot.
Tonally, there are many things familiar about this record, but what is surprising is the tremendous lyrical moves they make in the course of albeit brief ballads. They break, in the final half of the album, into a bit more of the driven rock that brought them success with American Standard, but the best moments in the album are crooned over acoustically-crafted melody lines and whiskey-voiced intensity. It’s worth downloading at least the first few cuts and giving it a listen.
Reading now Andy Stanley’s Creating Community, which is written (admitted by Stanley in the introduction) largely by NorthPoint’s community life pastor Bill Willits. After the other readings I have done, this seems light in comparison to Wilhoit and Ogden, but I see the point. The small group program, if it is to be done, must move beyond a “program” into a culture. Yet, Andy Crouch’s great book Culture Making reminds us that to say we can change “a culture” as if it can be defined as just one culture, is kidding ourselves because we all live in multiple “cultures” simultaneously. I think the Stanley book is hitting at their congregation’s practice of small groups and how it has become indicative of their corporate mindset, but I don’t know that it is as pervasive or possible in other locations as it is in theirs. The subtitle, “5 Keys to Building Small Group Culture” is ambitious and perhaps misplaced, but at least they avoid the John Maxwell mistake of saying “THE 5 Keys…”
In all this thinking about discipleship, I think perhaps the one most powerful tool that enters into the process of following Jesus is the opportunity to say NO to the whole thing. I think we need to recapture the idea of giving people the chance to say “I can’t follow Jesus, I can’t make that step” because it reveals the inverse–the strength and pervasive effect of saying YES to following Christ. I don’t mean simply being baptized–we have plenty of soaking wet people who aren’t disciples–I mean opening up the whole picture before them and saying “This is the life of the disciple, this is what it means to follow, can you take this on?” John 6:60-66 is powerful to me, haunting even, because Jesus stands in the presence of people who are thinking about leaving, and He does nothing really for retention. Other places he intimates that this is a decision that should be thought through beforehand, rather than the typical position of “Hey, now that you’re baptized here’s what you just agreed to.” The magnitude of that cannot be missed on the landscape of an impotent Christianity such as the one we’re confronted with. Perhaps there are fewer and fewer disciples because the “bait-and-switch” of evangelism is incapable of producing lasting change?
In other words, the strength of discipleship lies in the option to categorically turn the whole thing down. The decision to follow, with the option to say no, shows the weight of the change needed to follow.
listening: Iain Archer

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December 13, 2008 at 10:26 pm
waylon
1. Prine as in John Prine? I LOVE his “Spanish Pipedream” song! Really, my ambition in life is to live out that song with me as the soldier on his way to Montreal and Alison as the mysterious topless lady.
2. Am I undercutting the body of Christ by saying that John Maxwell strikes me as a royal dooshbag first class? I’ve tried to say “Get behind me Satan!” every time that thought crops up, but I’m not making much progress.
3. There’s a book by a guy named Ranier called “High Expectations” from which I read a couple chapters. He talks about how his research shows that churches who expect a lot out of new members up front tend to keep those new members. I’m wanting to buy it and read the rest of it.
December 14, 2008 at 10:06 pm
thewantofpeace
So what do you do Casey? What does discipleship look like? Obviously I know that the answer to that question is too complex for a blog post but I’m wondering if you might give me a sketch. This is a conversation that those close to me have been working through (quite intensely) for some time now. I feel like we never get anywhere with it. I’m of the opinion that our current system is broken and is need, at the very least, of serious reform (if not complete revision). What then does it look like to make disciples in our day? Peace…
December 15, 2008 at 5:12 am
C.K. Tygrett
I appreciate the call for a map, which is what I’m currently in the process of doing, but I think there is a very regional flavor to making disciples that often isn’t taken into consideration. I finished the Stanley book on small groups, and was left with the thought that their setting/their congregation/their world is set up for making disciples this way, but what about everyone else? It’s the problem with portable solutions.
I would say that I’m leaning towards some kind of 6-month/1-year catechism process not unlike Lutherans/Catholics before bringing someone into the community. It gives a chance to see the full picture. No?